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10/12/2008

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Jamie Leonard

I thought what they had to say was really interesting and from a candidate view point, it will change the game. The big job they have now is educating candidate before the market makes a judgment. 90% of the site has changed and thei big clients (including agencies) will be quick to judge if it does'nt show an almost immediate benifit. They've also go to educate their clients, because what you've said Alex is great, but wont make a lot of sense to a lot of people and the Monster sales guys need to figure out how they can relate that info to a HR Manager from a bed company in Stoke, or heaven forbid, someone that works for an agency that does'nt have this level of digital understanding.

Andy Headworth

For a minute there Alex, I was thinking that you were working on a sponsorship deal with Andrex - not for the content I might add, but for the length of it!!
For all their faults - and there are a few - Monster were shrewd enough to "invest" £gazillions in getting people to register on their site over the last few years. (This is something I think Jobsite has tried to replicate with their £18m campaign!!)
Now they have such a huge database of candidates/jobseekers - dare I say they probably have the biggest one out there in the UK? - they need to utilise it in the most effective way and start to add some value for both the job seeker and the companies/agencies using it.
From what you have said in your precis of War and Peace above, it seems that they are trying to make steps in this direction. They should be applauded for doing that.

But as they say in chef's school, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.............anyone for Monster portions?

Richard Tyrie

Great post (as ever!) Alex.

Rapid fire thoughts, nay, almost tweets:

Firstly, a caveat: Ok, so we're (technically) a competitor, so you could argue our view would - by definition - be somewhat jaundiced. granted.

Anyways...

Innovation can't just be shipped from a lab. Period. It is an ongoing, iterative process that requires input from various stakeholders:

1.) The folks within the Monster business that need to use the app to do their jobs every day;

2.) The customers that pay the bills (how many "yeh, but it would be great if..." comments do we on the front line get each week?);

3.) ...and finally on the stakeholder front, lets not forget those that supposedly *really* count: the punters, or as they are affectionately known: 'users'.

Questions:

1.) Can Monster/anyone be all things to all people via a single global platform?

2.) Is it possible (or even necessary) to 'localise' innovation and benefit from suggestions/inputs from stakeholders to go on this journey?

IMO we're not talking about a generic app like twitter, or facebook here... We're talking about recruitment, which by definition is a complex process that comes with all sorts of legislative, cultural, sectoral baggage and idiosyncracies.

We should know, we've spent the last 10 years trying to herd Kool public sector cats into using a common software platform @ www.jobsgopublic.com - a tough gig I can tell you (even with our laser beam-like focus on one sector, in one nation)...

Final point (tweet #25, ahem)

Will those charming US folks at Monster *really* give a hoot about their limey chums anyway?

When the change requests come in (which they inevitably will), I bet the requests from our Monster compadres in good ole' blighty ain't going to even register...

Time will tell i guess. But as an organisation that has tried to 'do' innovation for the last ten years (the learning curve hasn't flattened btw), it ain't as simple as shipping a cute app with a nice GUI.

Is the future of great software in online recruitment co-created and hyper-focussed? Yup, we think so..

Jamie White

Is it me or does the headline "When You Invent The Game, It's OK To Change The Rules." which goes on to detail Monster's somewhat pedestrian and US-centric overhaul in my RI5 newsletter smack just a little bit of pride before a fall? I hope not. But wouldn't it be nice to see them get their tone and messaging right for once?

Alex Hens

Yeh – it does portent terribly of that alien monster desperate to burst out from within that I referred to in my post. I too on opening the email felt my heart sink a little. Is there no one in the UK marketing department that has the balls to explain to America that such messages over here are, my gut feel tells me, universally received as arrogant American bullshit spin? Or perhaps Monster Marketing is just a 100% US division and have learned their “skill” from the George. W. School of International Marketing and Relations.

One of Monster’s changes that I praised was the move to a single technological platform – unfortunately marketing isn’t like technology – each market needs a local focus and appreciation, and the trust of the overarching brand for that to be translated appropriately. With messaging like this spilling forth then I fear for the sales team hoping, in a difficult market, to ride on the back of “good news and innovation train”. This does indeed smack of Old Monster not the new shiny customer and candidate focussed Monster I saw peeking from behind a curtain in the presentation. If that is the case then I’m afraid that not only does it smack of pride before a fall, but many will switch back to their default opinion “it’s Big Bad Monster” and actually take some schadenfreude if Q1 2009 (through reasons of their own control or not) doesn’t start with a Monster bang.

Alex Hens

oh dear - I'm sure we are all aware of the post launch security debacle visited on Monster (currently unrolling across mass media) - but it also seems that the ugly shortsighted sales monster indeed couldn't keep itself hidden for long.

Louise covers it here: http://ukrecruiter.typepad.com/uk_recruiter_blog/2009/01/monster-selling-themselves-over-agencies.html?cid=146450704#comments

Are these people really so daft as to think, in this connected world (and particularly connected industry), that people don't talk? Have they no constructive long term sales strategy? Oh dear oh dear!

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