I haven’t had a rant for ages so I thought it was about time I put that right! Unusually this time I’m not ranting at a company or a person, I’m ranting at what is fast becoming a “universal truth” of recruitment advertising.
One particular person may not have started it but the belief in our industry that advertising on social networks doesn’t work for recruitment is certainly wide spread. The wisdom says that social networks like Facebook are for friends and social networking and therefore targeting recruitment advertising messages into them won’t work. Further more it goes on to say that anyone who does this is simply frittering their client’s money away trying to be “innovative”
Well do you know what? Nothing could actually be any further from the reality of the situation.
As I’ve mentioned many times before we use third party software to track all the advertising we place online for our clients. Guess what…Facebook advertising not only works, it is often the most effective placement on the schedule in terms of number of applications generated.
Now there is obviously a caveat to this. It doesn’t work for all roles and it doesn’t work in all locations but when it is included as part of a properly considered and well researched media strategy the results can be tremendous.
There is actually an interesting dichotomy at work here that may go some way to explain how the waste of money myth came into being.
If you actually ask most Facebook users what they think of the advertising and whether they would click on it the response is nearly always negative. So why are the click throughs so high and the ultimate results often so good? The answer is two words…targeting and relevance.
Now I’m sure you can all think of a time when you saw a contextually targeted advert on a site you were using and thought “how rubbish that's an advert”. However I bet there are also times when you saw an advert that was so relevant to what you were thinking right at that moment that you clicked on it straight away.
Don’t remember doing that? Well the stats say you have. You probably don’t remember because you thought of it subconsciously as an incredibly useful link and not an advert. This is what the stats tell us is going on with Facebook advertising
So next time someone tells you that advertising messages in social networks don’t work for recruitment just ask how they know that. I bet they won’t be able to tell you!
fairynough point well put.
Also don't forget - majority of online adverts you'll see for recruitment campaigns (with some notable exceptions) are pretty rubbish and hardly what you'd call "engaging" or "stand out".
yeh sure - the studios can bang out an adequate banner for a job site where you're talking to active job seekers (although trust me, even then that can often be a struggle), but when you're reaching outside of that "I'm here because I'm looking for a job - oh look, there's a banner that's got a job title that's kinda like mine" audience, the creative has to work many many times harder.
But hey - fact is it's just easier to say "crap medium".
Well - you're wrong. Matt says so. And in this (not always) he's certainly right.
People just need to wake up to the fact that "doing a banner ad or two" is not good enough in a mixed online media campaign. That's just like playing the lottery, hoping your numbers (or in this case "active candidates") come up. If you're getting your clients to step outside of the job board norm then you've also got to ensure they have the mixed creative backed up by tracking and reporting underpinning it all that then shows which is hitting the mark and which missing - then acting dynamically to correct / work with that.
If you're not - then stop flogging social network advertising because you think it's what the client wants to hear / you need to be talking about. BECAUSE IT WILL FAIL. You'd be better off taking that extra budget and roadblocking an appropriate niche jobboard or generalist jobboard section. Sure you won't look so "now" and "with it" or "Recruitment 2.0"when talking through the schedule - but at least that way you're less likely to have to be standing there 4-6weeks later explaining how "social media just doesn't seem to work" and then having them thrust a Matt Alder (or someone else's) blog post under your nose telling you that they beg to differ.
It's just a suggestion :)
Posted by: Alex Hens | 07/11/2008 at 05:36 PM
Excellent post, and one that is going to open up a lot of conversation. I am totally with you on this one, which is why this warrants my first contribution to you boys' (and girl) blog.
Whilst previous research has absolutely positioned advertising as invasive and unpopular, my experience suggests the opposite. Facebook's advertising for example is not dominating or excessive. One advert on the homepage and two adverts down the right hand side of content/photo pages is far from excessive.
But it is the ability to target a specific audience that I really like. True the creativity isn't fantastic, but the creative use of an image and copy is what advertising agencies are for. And by tracking the performance of these adverts we are getting a better idea of what works and what doesn't.
What gives me even more confidence in this approach are the users views on advertising on Facebook. Many have accepted advertising as a necessary evil. In fact many welcome it, particularly as it is often relevant to them. After all the alternative to advertising is paying for access to Facebook - which would be even more unpopular.
Creative advertising delivering an appropriate message to a highly targeted and receptive audience. That's what we do isn't it? The social networks offer us access to all these. It's funny how people's opinions can change once confronted by facts.
Posted by: Mark Beavan | 07/11/2008 at 10:12 PM
One of the issues that we always face is that 'everyone had an opinion about advertising' ... This is because everyone consumes advertising ...
So people make very generalised statements ... because it is quicker than thinking about what they are doing.
For any campaign to work everyone needs to be involved in the decision to place the advertising in that specific media - so frame the conversation to make sense to all the decision makers.
Don't hide behind jargon, or scream out 'we are the experts' ... explain the media decision in plain English and justify the reasons for the selection ... because it does is not a great response :-)
Posted by: John Whitehurst | 11/11/2008 at 08:54 AM
Good posts and comments - I agree with most of the above but i did write on my blog recently about Innovation vs Effectiveness so i just want to elaborate a little on my concern with the promotion of social media for recruitment advertising and i know that this possibly says more about the OME approach rather the industry as a whole.
Important to note - we track and monitor all our clients activity cost per click cost per application and cost per hire so this comes from a statistical base.
Our approach is that a clients online recruitment strategy is about building blocks on a solid foundation - those building blocks have to be (in 2008)
- response mgmt/process (where is it going - how is it dealt with - how is it tracked) this can cover careers sites/ATS etc. If this is wrong - you are really whistling in the dark
- Job Board Strategy
- Email Marketing Strategy
- SEM
Most of the organisations we deal with (maybe its just us...have not cracked all of the list above) - once built we then complement with Behavioural Targeting. Business Networks, Social Networks etc.
My concern comes from the promotion of innovative social programmes before some of the building blocks have been laid down(known as running before you can walk).
I would feel confident that the major orgs represented above would execute on that basis but many many dont and one encounters inappropriate solutions proposed to clients keen to get involved in social networks. and that can lead to the exact opposite for what we all wish to achieve (ie disillusionment or cynicism with Facebook etc as a viable medium)
Posted by: Dom Sumners | 12/11/2008 at 01:09 PM
Dom, I am not sure I agree with you that promotion of innovation is the issue.
I have tended to find the examples of inappropriate solutions come from a poor understanding of the client, a poor brief and poor account management. Not really a desire by the agency to run before they can walk.
The promotion of innovation is not the problem ... more the promotion of people without the skills to do their job.
Posted by: John Whitehurst | 12/11/2008 at 04:09 PM
Interesting comments Dom but surely if you track every click then you'd just recommend what worked to a client rather that doing things in a set order, wouldn't you?
After all it's already a fact that job boards don't work for everyone and as new channels gain traction then their effectiveness is likely to take another hammering
Matt
Posted by: Matt | 13/11/2008 at 12:59 AM
Interesting comments Dom but surely if you track every click then you'd just recommend what worked to a client rather that doing things in a set order, wouldn't you?
After all it's already a fact that job boards don't work for everyone and as new channels gain traction then their effectiveness is likely to take another hammering
Matt
Posted by: Matt | 13/11/2008 at 01:01 AM
Cheers Matt - it is the fact that we track the clicks that put the building blocks in that order. Our figures tell us the best return on investment for your advertising $$ comes from a very dull very beautiful well written optimised job posting (not always of course)and goes on from there. It seems our stats differ and that could be down to many different factors (optimised job postings vs jobs posted via a multi posting tool for instance - and yes you can do both things - ie post-optimise multi posted adverts)
The problem as John points out is that we are talking generalities and all clients are specific - and the solution needs to fit the clients objectives. I am sure we all do this.
One size doesnt fit all - and as i say it is my/our view that adopton of online recruiting techniques for a client is a journey hopefully managed by a trusted experienced partner - with pilot schemes - measured and tracked - and further investment based on solid cost per hire results.
Great debate!
Just to kick debate on further
Are job boards working less well?
Are they going to take a further hammering?
Our stats dont indicate this but i would be interested to have any comments from the media?
Posted by: dom sumners | 13/11/2008 at 11:46 AM
Mmn....the building block approach outlined above, does worry me a bit, as whilst it seems a sound and sensible approach - it may have had more relevancy two/three years ago when social media was in its infancy.
It puts me in mind of a conversation I had a number of years ago at my previous agency with one of the regional Account Directors. I was trying to convince him to use online media in the graduate recruitment for an engineering company.
'Sinead', he said, 'how can we use online media? we have never gotten any response from it in any of our previous campaigns?
'Mr X', I said, 'you have never used it before, so how could you have possibly have gotten any response from it'?
(of course this didn't mean that the Internet didn't provide significant reach to the target audience at the time).
Whilst I completely agree that SEM/SEO, a sound response mechanism and to some degree a decent job board presence is key, I don't believe that this should be done in isolation to or prior to using any platforms that can achieve a targeted dialogue that social media can offer (if done properly).
Otherwise, you may run the risk of your client being left behind, with the comfort of stats that are gleaned within limited confines of the Interent medium and all that it offers.
Posted by: Sinead Bunting | 17/11/2008 at 12:31 PM
IMHO I think a mix is good but you need some tracking in place to assess on a client by client basis. I would have to say though Matt, volume of applications is not necessarily a great rule of measure but I'm sure you are not selling just on that stat!!
Looks like there are some useful activities going on; looks like the similar myth 'agencies know sh*t about online' may not be quite as current anymore - or do we have the only few leaders on this blog :)
The discussions you lot must have when you meet up........
Posted by: Peter Gold | 19/11/2008 at 10:04 AM
oh yeh - it's definitely a 2 or 3 pants event when we get together, because we'll bore the 1st set off without even trying!
:D
Posted by: Alex Hens | 21/11/2008 at 04:29 PM
Just have to add to this off the back of the MLL (www.mylonglunch.com) event on Wednesday where (amongst many others) Facebook were there showing off their new (at least to me) advertising facility.
All I can say is "about bloody time" and "wow". I understand that the best businesses (in my humble) put the user and traffic first with monetising that audience 2nd, but knowing that with the first the 2nd will come (the other way round and you're fighting an uphill battle all the way). Face book has not only mass market but, of course, incredible profile detail for ad targeting - add the two things and you've got yourself one hell of a powerful tool.
They freely admit there's still work to do, but flippin heck it looks good. Very good.
Posted by: Alex Hens | 28/11/2008 at 08:54 AM
See....if you don't use it (or you do and don't measure objectively) then you just don't know what you don't know. I completely agree with you Alex, I think the targeting is amazing. If it's done right then the user is not even going to think of the advert as an advert but instead as a useful and timely link (our campaign stats back this up). That is something that is key to our industry in the future
Posted by: Matt | 28/11/2008 at 09:06 AM
love the Facebook advertising targeting product! I am confident results will continue to improve for clients (to be fair - as they have through 2008)
Now our job is to make sure the solution always fits the clients needs.
Posted by: dom sumners | 01/12/2008 at 12:16 PM